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The answer seems to depend upon whom you ask. RBC Insurance put the question to 1,001 Canadian parents and 1,000 teens in a survey conducted in August 2012. The results reflect a widespread belief that Dads and teens are good drivers, despite evidence of questionable driving behaviours.
For example, Canadian parents almost uniformly express confidence that their teens are good drivers, even though a majority would say their teens are engaging in some form of driver distraction, according to the survey commissioned by RBC Insurance.
Twenty per cent of parents indicated the most common fault with their teens' driving is that teens did not know their route or direction. Driving distracted was a close second at 15%. Other common faults parents mentioned include:
For those defending this teacher, have you actually read the article? It clearly states that Swagerty has been cited for HOSTING the party, that beer and liquor were "strewn throughout the home," and that most teens had driven to the home and would have DUI'ed had police not intervened. What more evidence do you need?[Portion removed by Palo Alto Online]
Don't blame Palo Alto Online or Weekly for reporting an incident that took place at the home of Swagerty. Ask yourself this question: if you as parents are home, would it be possible for a bunch of teens to show up and start drinking without your knowledge? How big is her home that she had no clue a wild party was going on? Don't forget the police were tipped off by LOUD PARTY at 10:30PM. Obviously, it must have been too loud for some neighbors and yet wasn't a bother to Swagerty? C'mon, folks, this is an open and shut case or the police wouldn't have cited the couple at the spot!
-- and nothing in the SF Gate article provides evidence, or even a hint of evidence, about what the parents knew, when they knew it, or what they may have been doing. All of the details describe what teens did and where.
Friends --Rather than rushing to condemn or defending the character of the individual parents, let us focus on a much larger problem in this community -- teen parties focused on drinking, every weekend. Whatever the specifics of this case, MANY of these parties do take place in homes where parents have the mistaken concept that it's safer that way. So let's allow the legal system to deal with whether or not the parents in this case are guilty as charged. But let's not continue to play ostrich about the problem here. Two Palo Alto teenagers have died in two years due to drinking and driving. There's a culture of "kids will be kids" and tolerance of binge drinking that is putting many teenagers' future at risk. We all want to be "cool" parents and it's definitely not cool to tell your teens that not only can they not have the booze at your house, but that there won't be any uninvited guests, or people arriving with open or closed containers --- and you're going to be the heavy if the agreed-upon rules are not followed. But that's what we have to do if we really love our kids and want to help them grow up to be all they can be. See the two links below for some sobering info. Pun intended. ===============================A Parent's Guide to Teen Parties (Crystal Springs Parent Assn, 2002)Web Link===============================Parents, Teens and Alcohol: A Dangerous Mix (excerpt)"Underage drinking is a factor in nearly half of all teen automobile crashes," states Robert Wood Johnson vice president Nancy Kaufman. "It also contributes to suicides, homicides, and fatal injuries, and is a factor in sexual assaults and date rapes."The mixed messages that parents send when they "bargain" with teens and allow them to drink at home may actually be to blame for excessive teen drinking. Consider these disturbing trends:* A 1993 study of 15,000 students by the Minnesota-based Johnson Institute, which fights alcohol use at school and at work, showed that permissiveness at home affects adolescent choices more than peer pressure.* Mothers Against Drunk Driving (MADD) surveys estimate that when parents "bargain" with their kids and let them drink as long as they promise not to drive, teens are more likely to drive after drinking or be in a car with someone who is drinking.* The University of Minnesota's School of Public Health found that teens whose parents or friends' parents provided alcohol for parties were more likely to drink, get into traffic crashes, get involved in violence, and participate in thefts.Then there's also the sticky problem of setting a bad example for teens who want to do the right thing. "Some kids don't want to drink," says 18-year-old Courtney Michna. "They want an out and their parents provide a good excuse. If kids say 'Want some?' and they say, 'No, my parents will kill me,' most kids say, 'OK, that's cool, there's more for me!' But if parents are saying 'Go ahead, it's perfectly fine to drink,' then what out do kids have?"Kendrick goes a step further. "Parent-sponsored drunk-fests make it harder for the kids who don't drink and for parents who won't let their kids drink. It's almost an inherent challenge that these parents lay down by saying, 'I'm sponsoring this because I think your teen is mature enough to drink responsibly.' A teen who doesn't drink or whose parents say it's wrong thinks, "What's wrong with me? Am I the only one who feels this way?" But Kendrick believes there is a huge difference between "kids experimenting with alcohol and kids drinking with adult approval."Debby Hutter, a mother of four adolescents, agrees with Kendrick's assessment. "I feel like I would be ostracized if I said my daughters couldn't go to a prom or graduation party because there was drinking going on. My daughters say to me, 'Mom. You just don't get it.' But I don't get how parents--even if they take away the car keys--can justify serving 16-, 17-, and 18-year-olds beer. Kids make bad choices, but what can you do when parents facilitate those choices? It's totally disgusting to watch these kids get drunk!" Full article: Web Link
I am appalled that the teacher involved was back at school teaching on Monday morning. We as a community need to speak out about teen drinking with vigor! Parents should be more than cited, they should be jailed! This has been going on for too long without change. [Portion removed by Palo Alto Online staff]
I too am appalled by the lack of proper administrative action. At the least, Swagerty should be suspended (with pay) until the district decides if there is cause to terminate her.Some people repeat ad nauseam the legal loophole (innocent till proven guilty) that she is probably now trying her best to slip through. True, a powerful lawyer might be capable of making a hole big enough for her. But do we not want our kids to learn from someone who can be held to a much higher standard?She was there. There was a lot of booze. The party was getting wild. And she didn't know what was going on? Ask yourself this question again: if you as parents are home, would it be possible for a bunch of teens to show up and start drinking without your knowledge?
David Cohen, attorneys often find technical loopholes to get their clients off the hook. O.J. is scot-free thanks to his powerful attorneys. This I'm sure is not what our forefathers had in mind when allowing for innocence until proven guilty.I would further remind you that the couple need not be found guilty legally in this situation to be liable for civil litigations, if one of the drunken teens were involved in some kind of accident with injuries/deaths. That is the seriousness of the incident that you are trying to defend. Luckily, some neighbors got more worried than Swagerty and her husband and the police intervened. At least we have police statements and media reports to go on to demand suspension of Swagerty. What do you have? Just some technical loopholes that might be available for the couple to jump through. Judging from their refusal to return phone calls from the media, they are probably busy talking to some big-time attorneys.Palo Alto Officer Ryan's statement sums it up nicely. ``One girl was passed out on the floor upstairs, and in a couple of rooms, kids had vomited. The house was pretty much trashed,'' Ryan said.Swagerty must have been holed up in a soundproof closet in some remote bedroom in what must be a big palace.
I can't believe what I am reading here. "The newspapers can get the facts wrong...the police can and do get the facts wrong..." Why don't you just flat out say" "The newspapers are irresponsible and the police can't tell a fact from fiction."The facts are loud and clear: Swagerty was home while a wild drinking party was going on. The house was trashed (don't tell me the police can't tell if a house has been trashed) and many teens were inebriated (don't tell me the police can't tell - they used breathalyser tests.) And pray don't tell me that you as a parent wouldn't know if teens are drinking in your house. Watch out, the next binge party will be held at your house under your very nose!!!
Shocked Parent, Conflating this situation with the OJ Simpson case is a bit over the top, don't you think? Apparently, you refuse to consider that there may not be major culpability by those who were cited. It's getting old hearing you compare those cited to Richard Nixon and OJ Simpson, or worse. Might I suggest some perspective?I find teen drinking parties reprehensible, as they put teens and those they might encounter on the roads, in danger. That said, I have seen, as stated before, a party like the one described virtually "explode" with incoming kids within 10-15 minutes. Go look up "flash mobs" and inform yorself of how teens with nothing else to do can get themselves in trouble very, very fast. I have seen this at local parties both PA students and for Stanford freshman - - see my entry above.It seems that you have a thing about wanting 'blood', and have a rather irrational anger directed toward those cited, without knowing what actually happened at that home. You are condemning w/o detailed knowledge. ALL we know is that there were teens there, drinking. We know that the parents were surprised when confronted - either out of sheer lack of knowledge of how the party had quickly gotten out of control, or having been in their family room, watching a movie.At most, this should be a lesson for any local parent to NOT permit alcohol on the premises, for minors. Further, EVERY ONE of the teens found drinking shuold be cited and have their driving licenses suspended. Why aren't you asking for that?The localPA police should make it very clear - and use the schools to transmit the message - that alcohol possession by minors will be dealt with harshly, including those who enable said possession. Currently, that's not the way things are done here.Last, if someone commits a misdemeanor, or is cited for a civil crime, or what is considered at the time a minor offense, that has NOTHING to do with their job, leave their job out of it. 041b061a72